Fri 27 Feb 2009
I just got this question from a teacher on Webconnect (which lets teachers ask science questions):
“In the past when I taught electricity I always understood that it flows from the negative terminal to the positive. The CPO books and materials have the opposite – from positive to negative. This doesn’t make sense to me in how you generate the flow of electrons, pulling to the opposite charge. Is the book wrong or have I forgotten stuff? 8th grade teacher”
It depends on what you define as “electricity”. Do you mean the flow of “electrons” or the flow of “current”? Because, due to an unfortunate quirk of history, the direction of *current* flow is opposite to the direction of *electron* flow. Take a moment and re-read that, because it’s not what you would expect. If electrons are flowing to the right across this screen, then we say that current is flowing to the left.
So, let’s say that the left hand side of this screen is the positive terminal and the right hand side is the negative terminal
+ -
*Electrons* will flow towards the opposite charge, as you say. That’s which direction? Right to left
<—- electrons
But *current* is the opposite direction. Left to right.
—-> current
So *current* does flow from positive to negative, like your books say. And electrons do get pulled towards the negative charge, like you say. But we define electric current to be the opposite direction of electron flow.
There’s some good history on why it’s defined this way, but I’m too busy to find it right now — if someone has a good link, stick it in the comments, thanks!
UPDATE 4/27
Here’s a relevant comic from xkcd
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12 Responses to “Electron flow vs. current flow”
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Kenneth Finnegan
Posted: Feb 27th, 2009 at 8:15 pm1Reply to this comment.Another thing to note is that the speed of current is dependent on the speed of the electric field, which is C (3E8 m/s), where the speed of the electrons is based on the current density (current per area of wire). The “drift velocity” of the electrons ends up being mind-blowingly slow: normal household values run in the range of 0.15 mm/s.
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Stacy Kissel
Posted: Mar 7th, 2009 at 1:51 am2Reply to this comment.We can blame Ben Franklin for this one. He coined the terms positive and negative and named the charges that move from object to object positive. It wasn’t until much later that we discovered electrons are what move in solids. See http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_1/7.html Students get a kick out of learning that our definition of current in circuits is backward! By the way, I happen to be one of the CPO writers.
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David E Darragh
Posted: Mar 20th, 2009 at 8:17 pm5Reply to this comment.Okay, now, in welding, we can change polarity. DCEN is referred to as “straight polarity.” (work positive, electrode negative) DCEP, or “reverse polarity” is work piece negative, electrode positve. Which direction(s) are the electrons and current flowing? Now, I’m really confused.
Dave
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chetan kumar
Posted: Dec 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am7Reply to this comment.we can that current flows from positive to negative because of current flows from higher potential to lower potential so that we that current flows from positive to negative.
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chetan kumar
Posted: Dec 7th, 2009 at 9:14 am8Reply to this comment.we can that current flows from positive to negative because of current flows from higher potential to lower potential so that we may say that current flows from positive to negative.
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swati
Posted: Jan 8th, 2010 at 8:34 am9Reply to this comment.Thanks, that was very useful.
I got confused too!
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siddharth
Posted: Feb 19th, 2010 at 12:57 pm10Reply to this comment.actually it is a just a game of energy….
look….we know opposite charges cant stay apart ..this is wat was founded naturally…so if ++++++ (–>>>>>>>) ——-
charges r separated…so assume potential diff between.these be ‘V’..after some time say ‘t’situation will be..+++ (–>>>>>) — … now potential has dropped to say ‘v’..
beacuse most of -ve electrons have gone to +ve side..to decrease the energy of system..(that is the law..they try to come to each other to decrease the energy of system ..of each other..)…so to derive a mathematical equation for this..we gave a convention first that +ve side will be treated as higher potential and -ve side low potential….so v(+)-v(-) is a +ve quantity…and this difference is found to be proportional to resistance and flow of current…now resistance is +ve thing(because hindrance to flow is +ve thing)…..so current is given +ve thing…
so when we go from…v(+) to v(-)……we consider something going from ++ (–>>>>) –….so in an eq.. both sides must be +ve…thats y a convention was set that current flows from ++ to — direction..it was just a convention set up during its invention..so that w can study it mathematically…and after that every thin was set according to this convention…every law is studied lik that…books were written in this way…so mits just a convention…and its just an abstract thing….ok…got the point….just a convention…nothin real..in it…in reality its just the electron which flow nothin else…. -
siddharth
Posted: Feb 19th, 2010 at 1:03 pm11Reply to this comment.we want the equation….v(+)-v(-).. be +ve must be +ve thing…so in an equation….we relate it with product of resistance(a +ve thing) and cuurent(must be +ve)…so current is given convention from ++ terminal to — terminal….
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Bellatrix Bly
Posted: Mar 1st, 2010 at 9:38 pm12Reply to this comment.Ohmigawd, thanks! I’ve been having a bad day, and science class didn’t make it any better, so I think you’ve just saved my sanity!
